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Frequently asked questions regarding Downriver:
What is the earliest recorded use of the “Downriver” term as we know it?
The term used to describe this 18-city & township area still does not have a definitive debut event or newspaper mention as of yet, although research into this is still ongoing.
The actual name, as mentioned in other website areas, has been used for centuries – although in a nautical sense only – referring to our geographical location immediately south of Detroit.
The overall question was posed in June, 2026 to Pat Batcheller; drive-time radio DJ for Detroit station WDET (101.9 FM). Research conducted on his side nailed down the year 1915 as the first official mention of the modern definition. This would be according to an untitled PR pamphlet issued by the city of Wyandotte in that year; a publication we are looking to gain access to and post its information sometime soon.
Independent research conducted by this site is currently exploring back issues of the Detroit Free Press, starting in December, 1915 and working backward in time. To date, the earliest mention is December 12 of that year, as an article advertises the proposed construction of a paper mill in the “down river district,” a project which had a construction price but no specific location. We will update this forum as the research continues.
Was famed actress Lucille Ball born in Wyandotte?
No, she was not… but Lucy did have dedicated ties to the city, regardless.
Lucille Ball was born in Jamestown, NY on August 6, 1911. The family moved several times in Ball’s initial years: first from Jamestown to Anaconda, MT, then back east to Trenton, NJ. Her father, Henry Durrell Ball, was a lineman for Bell Telephone, which required the constant relocations of the family in order to keep working. Mr. Ball found a similar job in Wyandotte, but contracted Typhoid Fever in 1915 and passed away on February 28 of that year, when Lucille was only three. Her mother, “Dee Dee” Ball, was expecting another child and moved the family back to New York State, where they would settle in Celoron.
Lucy would make a return visit in 1947, as she was in the area performing at a local theater. She made certain to visit the Wyandotte home to spend time with Bernard Daniel and his family, who were Lucille’s landlords in the 1910s. Within four years, she would star in her breakout role as Lucy Ricardo in the groundbreaking comedy, I Love Lucy. The original bedroom set on the show also displayed a picture frame with Wyandotte pioneer Major John Biddle shown.
The house likely had two addresses during its existence. The number given during her residency was 126 South Biddle Avenue. Upon her return visit, it was listed as 3738 Biddle. With little fanfare. the house would be torn down in the early 1950s as part of the first phase of Wyandotte’s Urban Renewal program targeting the south end.
Was there ever a movement to replace the “Downriver” name?
Yes. Efforts to rechristen the area as “Metro Shores” were rampant as recently as 1999. The push toward change was spearheaded by Sandy Hudson, chairperson of a upscale community regional group called “Vision 21.” Their main purpose was to help transition impressions of the area toward a modern theme in order to attract the younger generation (white-collar), while shifting focus away from its past memories as an industrial powerhouse (blue-collar).
Vision 21 would aim to boost area optimism and encourage more civic activity in the hopes of increasing property values. Hosting forums with guest speaker CEOs ranging from the head of the Detroit Regional Chamber to the president of Domino’s Pizza aimed to integrate the Downriver zone with the greater metropolitan area. Finally, it would also come back to the geographical question; aiming at waterfront lands along the Detroit River to Lake Erie as potential locations for high-end residential and recreational activities.
Despite everything, the Downriver name would stick in spite of the organization’s efforts. Vision 21’s plans were akin to an “artificial corporate marketing scheme” promoted by non-locals in the minds of many. Most important was the political turn by area mayors & supervisors: they did not believe in the image change and distanced themselves from Vision 21, denying them financial support and labeling them a political liability.
Within months after the death of idea backer Heinz Prechter in 2001, Vision 21 and its mission were lost to time.
Was the Downriver area specifically mentioned in popular music?
There may be two opposing answers to this question. For the legendary Bob Seger (who has an Allen Park road named in his honor), it is a definite “yes,” courtesy of his early tune “Back In ’72.” Verse 2 reads, in part:
“Houston, yes, was a good old guest / Lord knows how bad we wanted to play
But we got homesick for Lincoln Park, imagine / and man we just couldn’t stay
Tricky Dick, he played it slick / Something I was afraid he’d do
Back in ’72 / oh, ’72…”
On the other end of the spectrum comes the rock band Journey, who famously made mention of South Detroit in their 1981 hit “Don’t Stop Believin.’” But did the group, led by singer Steve Perry, actually refer to Downriver itself? The consensus answer here is “no.”
Mr. Perry stated that was not the intent when the lyrics for the song were written, unintentionally creating a geographical flaw in the song. According to an article featured in the Vulture publication in 2012, he chose the area in general because it sounded “the most emotionally true” to him. Some of the song’s other lyrics were actually inspired during down time at a Detroit tour stop in 1980.
Did all Federal Department Store locations burn after they closed?
No, not all 54 stores in the Detroit-based chain suffered arson. According to the source himself, the burnings were coincidence. However, there is no discernable proof in anyone’s favor. The fires (only three in total, but all in the Detroit area) were still seen by many as part of an insurance cover-up.
Federal began in the late 1920s under the ownership of the Israel Davidson family; the firm would later become known for their aggressive hiring of minorities to lofty positions within the firm, a practice eventually made public on a national scale by a 1964 Ebony magazine feature.
Both Wyandotte and Southgate would house local Federal locations, but they had both closed (1966 & 1977 respectively) before the later drama took over with the forced arrival of new chairman Steven West. All bets were now off in day-to-day operations. Rebranding via tweaking the company name (Deral’s) did not mesh, and he found himself in trouble with state & national authorities for various reasons. It would be there that the locations in Detroit, Hazel Park and Roseville would catch fire, destroying all inventory while gaining him ill-conceived insurance perks. Despite a successful polygraph test in West’s favor, the mystery surrounding these fires have never been proven one way or the other.
Has Downriver been the birthplace to any well-known business chains?
Yes. The most cited example is Hungry Howie’s Pizza, which debuted in 1973 on Telegraph Road in Taylor, just south of the present-day Wal-Mart Supercenter. Today, the chain spans in excess of twenty states with over 500 locations nationwide.
American Sunroof Company (ASC) – profiled under the Economics / Industries section of this website and led by industrial titan Heinz Prechter – would eventually spawn sixty locations world-wide.
Comfort Keepers began in 1998, first based in Trenton under the ownership of nurse Kris Clason. Specializing in non-medical care options for independent senior citizens, it is now a widely-known international franchise with over 700 locations.
Masco Industries began as Masco Screw Products in Taylor Township around 1929. Operated by Alex Manoogian, it was initially a machine shop when investors approached Manoogian in 1952 with a faulty patent in hand. With some fixes & adjustments, the world would be taken by storm in the late 1950s with the introduction of the Delta single-handle water faucet, which revolutionized the plumbing industry forever. Located on Van Born Road for decades, they would move their headquarters to Livonia in 2015.
Is the McDonald’s restaurant in Southgate the first one built in Michigan?
No. It was actually the second location built in the state when opened in 1960 as store #306. The Lansing location (2120 N. Larch Street) predated it by three years; opening in 1957 and originally managed by Ed MacLuckie, who had secured the franchising rights directly from company founder Ray Kroc. Both locations are still in business, with the Southgate store being run by the Granader family for 66 years as of 2026.
Did “Ollie” Fretter really give away five free pounds of coffee in his deals?
The answer is actually not known. This was one of Fretter Appliance’s earliest marketing strategies, awarding this to any customer who had a better deal than Fretter (which had multiple Southgate locations from the 1950s into the 1990s).
But was it really five pounds in each can? It has been assumed up to now the answer would be yes, though some people are actually saying the coffee amount was substantially less than five pounds, and the weight of the actual coffee can made up the difference… in an effort to simply draw attention from the customer.
The general consensus, however, seems to be that recipients didn’t seem to mind the pound shortage (if there was one), and the customers actually enjoyed the attention as long as the coffee was a freebie.
Who gets credit for naming Southgate first: the shopping center or charter?
The charter gets the nod here, although in actuality it was decided along internal affairs, which likely caused much of the confusion in finding the answer. According to Thomas J. Anderson, former Ecorse Township Supervisor and first mayor of Southgate, the name was put into use as early as 1953 due to a necessity requiring “legal community identity,” although the name of Ecorse Township would continue to be used for general identification. (For mailing purposes, the township was still using Wyandotte’s post office information.)
The name represented its geographical location as the southern entrance to the metro Detroit area, judged by the Ecorse Township border on the south. An initial voter referendum held in 1956 would ultimately fail to pass a proposed city charter on the first attempt, and it was about that time initial plans were being drawn up for Southgate Shopping Center, which began construction in 1957. The shopping center was therefore named for the unincorporated village, not vice-versa.
Those radio towers in Lincoln Park — what radio station do they service?
Next door to the Meijer in Lincoln Park (Dix-Toledo & Emmons) are three rows of directional radio towers, originally put into place in the mid-1950s and can be seen from I-75 for several miles. Although three of the transmitters (closest to Dix-Toledo) were removed in the 1990s to make room for the original Super K-Mart Downriver, the remaining rows of towers are still utilized as part of WLQV-AM 1500, a Christian talk station now based out of Royal Oak. In addition to Christian programming, it also broadcasts University of Detroit-Mercy basketball games during the season.
The excess number of towers are a necessity due to the general weaker standard of AM signals, while they also guard against bleed-through from other nearby stations, provide stronger signals in Detroit & Windsor during the daytime, and protect other radio stations at night. (At one point, three Michigan radio stations used the 1500 frequency at once, which made the setup ideal.)
